Discussion:
Palm and MrProject
Mikael Hallendal
2002-11-09 14:21:47 UTC
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lör 2002-11-09 klockan 12.51 skrev P.A.M. van Dam:

Hi!
What would be great to have is the functionality to upload the planned work
schedules for the oncoming workweek to the PDAs (PALM for example) so the
employees have their to-do list. On this list they keep track which
tasks they spent their time on. At the end of the week the PDAs upload
their data to MrProject so the Actual Efforts can be calculated and a
new planning can be generated.
Yes, I agree, this would be a great thing to have. It wouldn't really
have to be very advanced to be useful. If anyone would be interested in
hacking on this I can try to help get the needed hooks in MrProject to
add this feature.
Also uploading status reports to the PDA would be great to have.
Right now, I'm working with Taskjuggler. I'll see what MrProject's status
is now.
It would be interested if the PDA part could be shared here and a common
protocol to send the data. Then we can use gnome-pilot to access the PDA
from MrProject and Taskjuggler can use pilot-link directly (it's a
console based tool, right?)

Regards,
Mikael Hallendal
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P.A.M. van Dam
2002-11-09 15:46:24 UTC
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Post by Mikael Hallendal
Hi!
Mikael,
Post by Mikael Hallendal
What would be great to have is the functionality to upload the planned work
schedules for the oncoming workweek to the PDAs (PALM for example) so the
employees have their to-do list. On this list they keep track which
tasks they spent their time on. At the end of the week the PDAs upload
their data to MrProject so the Actual Efforts can be calculated and a
new planning can be generated.
Yes, I agree, this would be a great thing to have. It wouldn't really
have to be very advanced to be useful. If anyone would be interested in
hacking on this I can try to help get the needed hooks in MrProject to
add this feature.
I'd surely be interested in it. I'm currently working with the 0.6 version of MrProject. The "actual effort" stuff is not yet there.
Post by Mikael Hallendal
Also uploading status reports to the PDA would be great to have.
Right now, I'm working with Taskjuggler. I'll see what MrProject's status
is now.
It would be interested if the PDA part could be shared here and a common
protocol to send the data. Then we can use gnome-pilot to access the PDA
from MrProject and Taskjuggler can use pilot-link directly (it's a
console based tool, right?)
That would be the right way to do it. We'll have to find someone with some
experience on PalmOS to develop a view and edit app for the data and that will
beam the altered data back. Pilot link can do both if an conduit is engineered for it.
Post by Mikael Hallendal
Regards,
Mikael Hallendal
Best regards,

Pascal
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Kurt Maute
2002-11-10 15:26:22 UTC
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Post by Mikael Hallendal
Post by Mikael Hallendal
It would be interested if the PDA part could be
shared here and a common
Post by Mikael Hallendal
protocol to send the data. Then we can use
gnome-pilot to access the PDA
Post by Mikael Hallendal
from MrProject and Taskjuggler can use pilot-link
directly (it's a
Post by Mikael Hallendal
console based tool, right?)
That would be the right way to do it. We'll have to
find someone with some
experience on PalmOS to develop a view and edit app
for the data and that will
beam the altered data back. Pilot link can do both
if an conduit is engineered for it.
I had a different thought on the direction for this
sort of functionality. Most email programs now
include task management, and also synch with Palm and
other PDA's. At my office, we use Outlook, which
allows me to send tasks to other people and to get an
update when the task is completed.

IMHO, it seems to me that if MrProject could be made
to send task requests to the major email software
packages, then the Palm part would be handled as a
side effect.

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Richard Hult
2002-11-12 12:41:37 UTC
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Post by Kurt Maute
Post by Mikael Hallendal
Post by Mikael Hallendal
It would be interested if the PDA part could be
shared here and a common
Post by Mikael Hallendal
protocol to send the data. Then we can use
gnome-pilot to access the PDA
Post by Mikael Hallendal
from MrProject and Taskjuggler can use pilot-link
directly (it's a
Post by Mikael Hallendal
console based tool, right?)
That would be the right way to do it. We'll have to
find someone with some
experience on PalmOS to develop a view and edit app
for the data and that will
beam the altered data back. Pilot link can do both
if an conduit is engineered for it.
I had a different thought on the direction for this
sort of functionality. Most email programs now
include task management, and also synch with Palm and
other PDA's. At my office, we use Outlook, which
allows me to send tasks to other people and to get an
update when the task is completed.
IMHO, it seems to me that if MrProject could be made
to send task requests to the major email software
packages, then the Palm part would be handled as a
side effect.
Good point, I never thought of it that way :)
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Mikael Hallendal
2002-11-19 10:54:17 UTC
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Post by Kurt Maute
Post by Mikael Hallendal
Post by Mikael Hallendal
It would be interested if the PDA part could be
shared here and a common
Post by Mikael Hallendal
protocol to send the data. Then we can use
gnome-pilot to access the PDA
Post by Mikael Hallendal
from MrProject and Taskjuggler can use pilot-link
directly (it's a
Post by Mikael Hallendal
console based tool, right?)
That would be the right way to do it. We'll have to
find someone with some
experience on PalmOS to develop a view and edit app
for the data and that will
beam the altered data back. Pilot link can do both
if an conduit is engineered for it.
I had a different thought on the direction for this
sort of functionality. Most email programs now
include task management, and also synch with Palm and
other PDA's. At my office, we use Outlook, which
allows me to send tasks to other people and to get an
update when the task is completed.
I've not used Outlook but if you look at Evolution it's task handling
capabilities is pretty limited. Also, the default Palm application for
task handling is _very_ basic so we would want something that is closer
to a project management app for PDA's to sync against.

This isn't mutually exlusive though, we could still have sync against
groupware apps (like evolution), someone just needs to have time to code
it :)

Regards,
Mikael Hallendal
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Hugues Lafarge
2002-11-19 13:11:07 UTC
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Post by Kurt Maute
Post by Mikael Hallendal
Post by Mikael Hallendal
It would be interested if the PDA part could be
shared here and a common
Post by Mikael Hallendal
protocol to send the data. Then we can use
gnome-pilot to access the PDA
Post by Mikael Hallendal
from MrProject and Taskjuggler can use pilot-link
directly (it's a
Post by Mikael Hallendal
console based tool, right?)
That would be the right way to do it. We'll have to
find someone with some
experience on PalmOS to develop a view and edit app
for the data and that will
beam the altered data back. Pilot link can do both
if an conduit is engineered for it.
I had a different thought on the direction for this
sort of functionality. Most email programs now
include task management, and also synch with Palm and
other PDA's. At my office, we use Outlook, which
allows me to send tasks to other people and to get an
update when the task is completed.
Mikael> I've not used Outlook but if you look at Evolution it's task handling
Mikael> capabilities is pretty limited. Also, the default Palm application for
Mikael> task handling is _very_ basic so we would want something that is closer
Mikael> to a project management app for PDA's to sync against.

Not that i've really used it myself, but on that matter it would
probably be useful to have a look at progect
(URL is http://sourceforge.net/projects/progect).
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Kurt Maute
2002-11-20 04:18:20 UTC
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Post by Hugues Lafarge
Mikael> I've not used Outlook but if you look at
Evolution it's task handling
Mikael> capabilities is pretty limited. Also,
the default Palm application for
Mikael> task handling is _very_ basic so we
would want something that is closer
Mikael> to a project management app for PDA's to
sync against.
Not that i've really used it myself, but on that
matter it would
probably be useful to have a look at progect
(URL is http://sourceforge.net/projects/progect).
I tried PalmProject a few years ago. I never used it
much since I end up dragging my laptop to every
meeting anyway. It did a nice job of synching with MS
Project via .csv file - I don't imagine it would be
too difficult to develop an interface for MrProject.
It costs $20...
http://www.pda-ware.com/download/PalmProject/usrguide.htm

Looking at Evolution, yes it is more limited in task
handling than Outlook. Outlook for instance will let
you set % complete on a task, whereas Evloution tasks
are simply either completed or not. Still, it would
be a good way to get some level of automatic status
updates from project participants, and Evolution (if
true to its name) will evolve. :)


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